King Cain & a dog I bred named Jones' Cookies whelped back in May of 1997.
Thursday, May 30, 2013
Wednesday, May 29, 2013
The Henry - Dibo Cross......
By gamedog
This story is based on wishful thinking in a certain direction that could be linked, but is by no means the truth. It is just a hint for the readers to think in a certain direction when breeding bulldogs and why some of the legendary old-timers are still on the top of the mountain after all these decades of breeding their family, because they carry a big hidden secret about the truth of one of the greatest clicks in history to produce awesome bulldogs.
Some time ago I was studying the roots and background off my bulldogs again and of other major bulldogs from the past with the help of pedigrees on line. It went pretty good and fast I came across the Eli/Boudreaux dogs and especially the Eli dog himself and the dogs before him. To my surprise I saw that he came from light colored dogs who were red bred and/or white buckskin and white brindle dogs traits from the Colby bloodline The Eli family turned from these colors black almost overnight he’s heavy Dibo inbred bred and since Dibo was one of if not the most important producer of his days it kind of looked odd that the Eli family turned black overnight.
When I arrived at my friend’s yard in Texas, USA, we started to talk about the various Eli family’s and stuff and my friend told me (who was close with Jerry Clemmons for some time and who owned the black Nigger Toby dog for some time that he bought off Clemmons) that Clemmons and one of the less known but best Eli breeder of the past, J.D. Elliot, had said to him “If you ever breed these dogs good and tight and a red one comes along, keep that one, as it most certainly will turn out good and you need him to breed back into your black family stock”. My friend never understood why and he told me that they never told him why. He took me to Jerry Clemmons place who I met and his very nice wife we saw the yard and his famous Six Bits dog and some others and youngsters. He didn’t have a lot of dogs around, about 12 or so, but it was educational and very nice to meet up with this old-timer and the man who bred Bullyson, Eli Jr and Brandy. A couple of days later I was picked up by another friend of mine from the Bulldog Ranch. He took me up to Louisiana and we visited Floyd Boudreaux. I was impressed by the same looks his bulldogs had as our dogs. What I liked about those dogs was that most of them were “90%” all black.
He had a couple of red dogs some red nosed and you could see that they were old-time stuff like the Wallace dogs were looking. Now I knew that his dogs were awful tight bred, but looked so good something that didn’t hit me right then. We had a lovely day and me and my wife and friend and Mr. Boudreaux had dinner at a good restaurant Cajun style! When I got back to my friends place a couple of days later I told him that these Boudreaux dogs looked too good compared with their inbred peds and that I found it odd that these 2 men after so many years in the game, still were and are the best Eli breeders around. I couldn’t help thinking about an interview with Danny Burton who once said that Earl Tudor loved the Henry dogs the best and that they were big headed black dogs with reddish eyes and they were crazy to fight and nobody knew where they came from????.
In that same interview Burton said that the first ting Earl Tudor told him was to know how to cheat! One of my mentors in bulldogs H.F aka Dirty Harry told me that Scotty Nelson stayed at his house in the UK for about 3 months. and during his stay there was lots of bulldog talk. And he told Dirty Harry that Earl Tudor imported dogs from the UK up until the mid to late 50's! WE know that the gross of the STB are black or black brindle dogs these dogs compared to APBT have (on average) more biting power and are very explosive but lack depth and Gameness!!. Although according to my other mentor they were sound and good dogs until the 50's where they as a breed lost it. It’s also known and discussed in interviews with legendary dog man of the past, that The Eli/Bullyson dogs and the alligator Bullyson crosses have Black mouths especially there pallets the funny thing is the black SBT has it to!!..I suddenly realized that it could be that Earl Tudor kept 2 families registered under ONE name which is known as the Dibo family. He could have these Henry dogs registered as Dibo dogs but in fact they were a secret family of dogs or at least some individuals, who when bred together made one hell of a click. Isn’t it funny that these Boudreaux bred dogs turned black overnight?? And are bred so tightly that they actually would not be able to function. Isn’t it funny that the red ones that popped up should be used to be bred in? Why was Carvers Black Widow stolen back by Tudor, who changed her name to Tudors Black Shine bred to his (Dibo) Spike dog 2 times and destroyed. Why was the Nigger dog, Earl’s favorite dog, with his favorite pedigree? In them days he had the same pedigree as many other dogs around Earl’s group.
There was one difference and that was that N.GGER was black!! All of a sudden, in a time span of not that many years apart, these great known ace dogs in the likes of Eli Jr, Bullyson, Zebo, Pit General, Alligator, and so on, popped up. I t sure is funny that most of these lines clicked very well together and/or more important clicked with the same outcross families, who YES WERE HEAVY DIBO BRED, like Snooty blood or Boomerang blood. Some of us will know the Eli (Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses of yesterday, together with the Zebo (Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses and the Alligator (Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses or the Zebo x Eli breeding’s or Alligator x Eli breeding’s, Bullyson (Henry) x Arts Missy (Dibo) or the Eli x Boomerang crosses and the alligator Heinzl crosses. Most of these legendary dogs where a product of Henry x Dibo cross registered under one name as Dibo dogs, but in fact they were battle crosses which could be the reason them pure bred Eli dogs are still looking so good and perform good, while on paper are bred awfully tight, too tight if you ask me. Don Maloney had those pure Dibo dogs, the best one he probably ever had was the Toot dog who was double bred Tudor’s Ch. Spike. Toot was like his Dibo ancestors, a real Dibo dog, light colored red dog like Dibo and Tudor’s Ch. Jeff or what about Tudor’s Ch. White Rock and so on. Where did the black colors in Eli and the Nigger and Zebo bloodlines came from? Why was Black Widow stolen? Why did they steal the old Eli dog? Why did Zebo come out of the same part of the country where they knew Eli went to? , why do they say he’s a son of Eli? Why was Pit General stolen? Not because he ore Eli was another great dog. I think breeding had a lot to do with it as well. Today we know that Indian Sunny had Pit general stolen he disappeared from the game for 3 years and came back with Black dogs bred into his corvino/bolio dogs with the most famous dog from that line called GrCh Midnight. His style, look, and his remaining family that followed him where not of the bolio/corvino types.
Too many coincidences surround the legendary black aces of the past. Last but not least, the conning and stealing probably started with Tudor’s sins. NIGGER was his favorite dog in color and pedigree but he later sold him because he wasn’t the hard mouthed dog Tudor thought he would be, and he wasn't the cur that a lot of people think. This rumor was spread by Don Maloney who was present only with Tudor and Burton. Maloney didn’t like Tudor taking a liking in Burton who named his son Earl. Maloney got the Dibo dogs and Burton the NIGGER (Henry blood) producing Pit General. Another Ace dog who is believed to be a Henry/Dibo cross is GrCh Art. His daddy being Eli Jr and his mommy the Java bitch, a red Carvers Pistol bred dog with some Miss Spike and Cottons Bullet in there. Last but not least, bloodlines built around dogs like Chinaman whose daddy came out of Eli Jr (Henry) x Curtis’ Sugar (Dibo) and as mentioned before GrCh Art out of Eli Jr x sister of Sugar called Java and also the Nelis ( Henry) x Tug (Dibo) or Spike (Henry) x Tug (Dibo) breeding’s, Tug being Tombstone/Toot/Carvers Pistol/Miss Spike, bred all pure Dibo red bred dogs, while Nelis /Spike are Henry black bred through Alligator x Eli blood; a coincidence? I can go on and on, but it would be nice for the readers to do some pedigree research themselves and seek out the hidden secrets used for 30 or so years to breed outstanding dogs. Like I said its wishful thinking, and fiction or could some of this be true?
This story is based on wishful thinking in a certain direction that could be linked, but is by no means the truth. It is just a hint for the readers to think in a certain direction when breeding bulldogs and why some of the legendary old-timers are still on the top of the mountain after all these decades of breeding their family, because they carry a big hidden secret about the truth of one of the greatest clicks in history to produce awesome bulldogs.
Some time ago I was studying the roots and background off my bulldogs again and of other major bulldogs from the past with the help of pedigrees on line. It went pretty good and fast I came across the Eli/Boudreaux dogs and especially the Eli dog himself and the dogs before him. To my surprise I saw that he came from light colored dogs who were red bred and/or white buckskin and white brindle dogs traits from the Colby bloodline The Eli family turned from these colors black almost overnight he’s heavy Dibo inbred bred and since Dibo was one of if not the most important producer of his days it kind of looked odd that the Eli family turned black overnight.
When I arrived at my friend’s yard in Texas, USA, we started to talk about the various Eli family’s and stuff and my friend told me (who was close with Jerry Clemmons for some time and who owned the black Nigger Toby dog for some time that he bought off Clemmons) that Clemmons and one of the less known but best Eli breeder of the past, J.D. Elliot, had said to him “If you ever breed these dogs good and tight and a red one comes along, keep that one, as it most certainly will turn out good and you need him to breed back into your black family stock”. My friend never understood why and he told me that they never told him why. He took me to Jerry Clemmons place who I met and his very nice wife we saw the yard and his famous Six Bits dog and some others and youngsters. He didn’t have a lot of dogs around, about 12 or so, but it was educational and very nice to meet up with this old-timer and the man who bred Bullyson, Eli Jr and Brandy. A couple of days later I was picked up by another friend of mine from the Bulldog Ranch. He took me up to Louisiana and we visited Floyd Boudreaux. I was impressed by the same looks his bulldogs had as our dogs. What I liked about those dogs was that most of them were “90%” all black.
He had a couple of red dogs some red nosed and you could see that they were old-time stuff like the Wallace dogs were looking. Now I knew that his dogs were awful tight bred, but looked so good something that didn’t hit me right then. We had a lovely day and me and my wife and friend and Mr. Boudreaux had dinner at a good restaurant Cajun style! When I got back to my friends place a couple of days later I told him that these Boudreaux dogs looked too good compared with their inbred peds and that I found it odd that these 2 men after so many years in the game, still were and are the best Eli breeders around. I couldn’t help thinking about an interview with Danny Burton who once said that Earl Tudor loved the Henry dogs the best and that they were big headed black dogs with reddish eyes and they were crazy to fight and nobody knew where they came from????.
In that same interview Burton said that the first ting Earl Tudor told him was to know how to cheat! One of my mentors in bulldogs H.F aka Dirty Harry told me that Scotty Nelson stayed at his house in the UK for about 3 months. and during his stay there was lots of bulldog talk. And he told Dirty Harry that Earl Tudor imported dogs from the UK up until the mid to late 50's! WE know that the gross of the STB are black or black brindle dogs these dogs compared to APBT have (on average) more biting power and are very explosive but lack depth and Gameness!!. Although according to my other mentor they were sound and good dogs until the 50's where they as a breed lost it. It’s also known and discussed in interviews with legendary dog man of the past, that The Eli/Bullyson dogs and the alligator Bullyson crosses have Black mouths especially there pallets the funny thing is the black SBT has it to!!..I suddenly realized that it could be that Earl Tudor kept 2 families registered under ONE name which is known as the Dibo family. He could have these Henry dogs registered as Dibo dogs but in fact they were a secret family of dogs or at least some individuals, who when bred together made one hell of a click. Isn’t it funny that these Boudreaux bred dogs turned black overnight?? And are bred so tightly that they actually would not be able to function. Isn’t it funny that the red ones that popped up should be used to be bred in? Why was Carvers Black Widow stolen back by Tudor, who changed her name to Tudors Black Shine bred to his (Dibo) Spike dog 2 times and destroyed. Why was the Nigger dog, Earl’s favorite dog, with his favorite pedigree? In them days he had the same pedigree as many other dogs around Earl’s group.
There was one difference and that was that N.GGER was black!! All of a sudden, in a time span of not that many years apart, these great known ace dogs in the likes of Eli Jr, Bullyson, Zebo, Pit General, Alligator, and so on, popped up. I t sure is funny that most of these lines clicked very well together and/or more important clicked with the same outcross families, who YES WERE HEAVY DIBO BRED, like Snooty blood or Boomerang blood. Some of us will know the Eli (Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses of yesterday, together with the Zebo (Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses and the Alligator (Henry) x Snooty (Dibo) crosses or the Zebo x Eli breeding’s or Alligator x Eli breeding’s, Bullyson (Henry) x Arts Missy (Dibo) or the Eli x Boomerang crosses and the alligator Heinzl crosses. Most of these legendary dogs where a product of Henry x Dibo cross registered under one name as Dibo dogs, but in fact they were battle crosses which could be the reason them pure bred Eli dogs are still looking so good and perform good, while on paper are bred awfully tight, too tight if you ask me. Don Maloney had those pure Dibo dogs, the best one he probably ever had was the Toot dog who was double bred Tudor’s Ch. Spike. Toot was like his Dibo ancestors, a real Dibo dog, light colored red dog like Dibo and Tudor’s Ch. Jeff or what about Tudor’s Ch. White Rock and so on. Where did the black colors in Eli and the Nigger and Zebo bloodlines came from? Why was Black Widow stolen? Why did they steal the old Eli dog? Why did Zebo come out of the same part of the country where they knew Eli went to? , why do they say he’s a son of Eli? Why was Pit General stolen? Not because he ore Eli was another great dog. I think breeding had a lot to do with it as well. Today we know that Indian Sunny had Pit general stolen he disappeared from the game for 3 years and came back with Black dogs bred into his corvino/bolio dogs with the most famous dog from that line called GrCh Midnight. His style, look, and his remaining family that followed him where not of the bolio/corvino types.
Too many coincidences surround the legendary black aces of the past. Last but not least, the conning and stealing probably started with Tudor’s sins. NIGGER was his favorite dog in color and pedigree but he later sold him because he wasn’t the hard mouthed dog Tudor thought he would be, and he wasn't the cur that a lot of people think. This rumor was spread by Don Maloney who was present only with Tudor and Burton. Maloney didn’t like Tudor taking a liking in Burton who named his son Earl. Maloney got the Dibo dogs and Burton the NIGGER (Henry blood) producing Pit General. Another Ace dog who is believed to be a Henry/Dibo cross is GrCh Art. His daddy being Eli Jr and his mommy the Java bitch, a red Carvers Pistol bred dog with some Miss Spike and Cottons Bullet in there. Last but not least, bloodlines built around dogs like Chinaman whose daddy came out of Eli Jr (Henry) x Curtis’ Sugar (Dibo) and as mentioned before GrCh Art out of Eli Jr x sister of Sugar called Java and also the Nelis ( Henry) x Tug (Dibo) or Spike (Henry) x Tug (Dibo) breeding’s, Tug being Tombstone/Toot/Carvers Pistol/Miss Spike, bred all pure Dibo red bred dogs, while Nelis /Spike are Henry black bred through Alligator x Eli blood; a coincidence? I can go on and on, but it would be nice for the readers to do some pedigree research themselves and seek out the hidden secrets used for 30 or so years to breed outstanding dogs. Like I said its wishful thinking, and fiction or could some of this be true?
An American Bully & Gwo Doz-chen......
Jones' Aye Bay Bay & NoVACAIN's Princess Meesha
American Bully & Gwo Doz-chen
Tuesday, May 28, 2013
X-Pert History in VA......
There was very important breeding of X-Pert Black Jack II to X-Pert Satin Boots in 1977. It was inbreeding III-I on Satin Boots. The litter had a brindle colored boy, named Atila Of Suregrip. Well known dog White Devil's Killer SchH II was sired by Atila. Now some of today's X-Pert staffs have strong influence of these dogs.
In 1978 John McCarthy bred his X-Pert Brindle Nellie's daughter, Nellie II to Ch.X-Pert Roman Grit. Ch.McCarthy's X-Pert Sai, McCarthy's X-Pert Little Mick, McCarthy's X-Pert Miggs were born there.
Victor Castanada bred Dixie Lilly Of Suregrip to Ch.X-Pert Cherokee in 1978 to produce Ch.Spikette Of Suregrip, who is in many of Barway's pedigrees now.
Suregrip Valiant Boots was bred to X-Pert Brindle Rocky in Rhody's Amstaffs. Lynda Snably purchased Danao Tiny Dancer "Kayla" from that litter. Here are some words of Lynda about Kayla: "I know that at the time I bought Kayla they had Ch. Sooner's True Grit of Rhody (Buster) there with them. He was a beautiful black brindle dog with a great personality. It was his personality that convinced my husband and I to make the purchase. We were expecting my first child at the time and of course, wanted a dog that would be good with children. In all the years we had Amstaffs, and later Pitbulls, we were NEVER disappointed there!!! We moved to Virginia and I started showing her as an American Pitbull Terrier, believe it or not? She was triple registered AKC, ADBA and UKC. She won several firsts and took several group wins at the "Old Dominion Pitbull Club" that my husband and I helped start back in the 80's. Kayla was a great producer and one of the best dogs I ever had the pleasure of owning" Her littermate Ironman K.O. was shown only 2 times and took 2 majors.Here is their pedigree.
| X-Pert Brindle Rocky | X-Pert Blue Boy | X-Pert Champer Boy II |
| X-Pert Red Midge | ||
| X-Pert Black Susie | George's Tacoma Mike | |
| Storklind's Kitty | ||
| Suregrip Valiant Boots | CH X-Pert Cherokee | X-Pert Brown's Northern Yuma |
| X-Pert Black Nellie | ||
| X-Pert Satin Boots | X-Pert Blue Boy | |
| X-Pert Black Susie |
A Lil CORVINO History......
In the mid 1960 Dr.Roll got pure Corvino bitch from Pete Sparks, she was named Corvino's Sparkett. She was brindle bitch with white on the chest, she was sired by brindle&white Corvino's C-Line and out of white bitch Corvino's Smarty.
Joe Corvino was one of the most famous dogmen in the breed history. Joe began his breeding program in the late 1920's, he started from dogs of Feeley, Tudor's, Shipley's lines and from Armitage x Tonn's cross. He bred numerous outstanding specimens, his gamedogs played very important role in the history. Such famous names as Corvino's Shorty, Corvino's Braddock, Corvino's Thunder, Corvino's Gimp, etc are well known to any dogman.
By the way, Joe bred National Specilaty Winner of 1939, Westminster Winner of 1940 CH Sox Of Chicago (Corvino's Dick x Corvino's Darky), that was whelped on March 1, 1938.
Joe's 14 times winner Corvino's Braddock sired CH Young Joe Braddock, who was used by Charles Doyle in his Tacoma line. Here is pedigree of Kitty Corvino, dam of Young Joe Braddock, Corvino's Iron Will and Corvino's Victory Bob.
| Saliba's Micky | Cornwell's Steve | Tudor's Fighting Peter 3xW |
| Tudor's Maggie | ||
| Johnson's City Sally | Tudor's Jack II | |
| Stefan's Bessie | ||
| Saliba's Peggy | Saliba's Battler | Irvin's Memphis |
| Mite's Black Queen | ||
| Lottie B | Corrington's Badger | |
| Corrington's Tessie |
Corvino's Braddock 14xW
Monday, May 27, 2013
Pete Sparks Owned X-PERT.....
There was very interesting breeding done by Fred Wild in 1957. He bred his heavybred Pack-A-Wow bitch, Wild's Boots to Ch.X-Pert Brindle Biff. Wild's Boots was also known as Florida Fourposter. She was fawn-brindle bitch by Gazan and out of Dan's Rebel. Gazan was by Colby's Pat and out of Dan's Rebel. So, Wild's Boots was inbred II-I on Dan's Rebel. Rebel himself was inbred I-II on Ben's Dan. Ben's Dan was litterbrother to Black Satan (Ch.X-Pert Pack-A-Wow x Sandy's Topsy). I wrote about Black Satan bitch before, if you remember she was dam of Tudor's Nigger. So, here is Wild's Boots pedigree.
| Copp's Gazan | Colby's Pat | Colby's Trim |
| Colby's Becky | ||
| Dan's Rebel | Ben's Dan | |
| Bobby Sox | ||
| Dan's Rebel | Ben's Dan | CH X-Pert Pack-A-Wow |
| Sandy's Topsy | ||
| Bobby Sox | Ben's Dan | |
| Ben's Sue |
So, Fred Wild recieved very nice litter from breeding his Wild's Boots to Ch.X-Pert Brindle Biff. 2 pups from this litter went to friends of Wilfred Brandon and one female pup was sent to Cliff Ormsby as stud fee pup. Pete Sparks bought this pup from Cliff and named Sparks' Spotty. So, here is Spotty's pedigree.
CH X-Pert Brindle Biff
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X-Pert Black Ace II
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X-Pert Black Ace
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X-Pert Duchess
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CH X-Pert Gallant Betty
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Buddy Of Elliot
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X-Pert Black Daisy
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Wild's Boots
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Copp's Gazan
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Colby's Pat
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Dan's Rebel
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Dan's Rebel
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Ben's Dan
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Bobby Sox
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A LiL RUFFIAN Line History......
CH Gallant's "RUFF"
CH "The RUFFIAN"
Gallant line was built on Gallant Ruff, who was pure Ruffian dog, bred by William Whitaker. Whitaker was close to Clayton Harriman, founder of the Ruffian line. This line was built on dogs of mostly Tudor's Henry bloods. Here is CH The Ruffian pedigree. Interesting thing that Garm D dog and Bennet's Black Mary were from Tudor's King x Rumpus Beauty breeding. Dam of the X-Pert foundation dog X-Pert Torpedo, VanVliet's Great Labelle was from Tudor's King x Hart's Rumpus Bonnie. Now, Rumpus Beauty and Hart's Rumpus Bonnie were littersisters! So, it's one more fact to understand how closely related X-Pert and Ruffian lines are.
| Klump's Deuce | Corrington's Spike | Corrington's Badger |
| Rennick Patsy Lee | ||
| Corrington's Dixie Lee | Garm II | |
| Corrington's Nifty | ||
| Klump's Dina | Garm D | Tudor's King |
| Hart's Rumpus Beauty | ||
| Dinah Lee | Paxton's Black Phantom | |
| Bennett's Black Mary |
Ruffian bloodline was started from Ch.The Ruffian and Fred Schroeder bred bitch named Schroeder's Muggins, also known as Calamity Anne. Schroeder line was mostly Colby with some Smith's. And Colby's in Schroeder's pedigree were mostly old Gas House strain.
Alberta Ormsby......
"They're terriers. ..Character is that they act like terrier, act like a Staff." - Alberta Ormsby
Alberta said this about Biff: " He'd just lift his feet like a horse, you know? Like a show horse. And away we'd go. Come on Biff we're going now. He'd wake right out of a sound sleep and on the collar would go. I'd change his collar from a bench collar to a show collar and we'd hurry over to the ring....to win! I always thought I had the best dog in the ring. I went in with the intention of winning."
X-Pert History.......
Ch.X-Pert Brindle Biff was owned by Ormsby's. He was the first dog that Alberta handled at a dog show. He won many shows all over the country. Biff took the BOB at the National Speciality in Columbus, Ohio in 1949. X-Pert dogs took all placements there. Captain Will Judy wrote: "C. A. Ormsby....should be satisfied with these results for his X-Pert dogs took all 5 major placings - a record no other breeder has accomplished at a breed show in America, any breed." Biff had also Best Producer record as the sire of 14 AKC Champions:
| 1 | Int.Ch.Topsy's Ghost | 8 | Ch.X-Pert Gallant Lady |
| 2 | Int.Ch.X-Pert The Angel | 9 | Ch.X-Pert Black Betsy |
| 3 | Ch.X-Pert Greer's Princess | 10 | Ch.X-Pert Deep Onyx |
| 4 | Ch.X-Pert Gerente | 11 | Ch.X-Pert The Imp |
| 5 | Ch.Alcade De X-Pert | 12 | Ch.X-Pert Glamour Girl |
| 6 | Ch.X-Pert Betty's Boy | 13 | Ch.X-Pert Yankee Boy |
| 7 | Ch.X-Pert Erin Of Chesterbrook | 14 | Ch.X-Pert Nutch Of Jaynes Hill |
Clifford Ormsby.......
" When a breeder does establish a good line, he will do well to keep his quality and not slip backwards. It is not easy as his best dogs get old and perhaps an outcross becomes necessary. Knowledge, advice, and criticism are always free as water but, as we see breeder after breeder fall by the wayside, one realizes determination and work are most important." - Clifford Ormsby
"It's important to keep the breed strong, and sound and healthy." - Clifford Ormsby
"You 've got to have an outcross now and then, too....Sometimes you think you're outcrossing and you're not outcrossing as much as you think." - Clifford Ormsby
" Well, I was always interested in animals and dogs from the time I was a little kid....I remember my first experience. I was going to spend my summer vacation with my aunt and uncle over on the Vandermark and they said, "Don't touch Buster, he bites." Well, hell, I had Buster under my thumb in nothing flat Nothing to it. They thought that I was remarkable, because others hadn't manipulated him the way I had, you know." - Clifford Ormsby
" I wasn't limited by breeding too close when I bred, because what I was using was so much outcrossed. So, if you start in with stuff that is already close bred, that's when you're going to get in trouble." - Clifford Ormsby.
"Alberta was teaching Dr.Roll how to show.......and Colonel Schuhmann was watching the whole thing and he said," I'll tell you something Doc,"he says, "You got to get the X-Pert on 'em before you are going to win." - Clifford Ormsby
"Now, Buck was a good looking pup and a good looking dog. You know, people come in and they say, I think that one there is the best one.That would be Buck." - Clifford Ormsby
Best American Staffordshire Terrier in the show. That Jim Rathbun, who called Mrs.Beers, he handled Tony to his championship and then he handled him to Best of Breed down in New York. He'd come over and he'd say,"I'll be over after him in about fifteen minutes. Come on Tony Balloney." Heh-heh-heh. He worked everything on Tony. He'd go out into that ring, in Madison Square Garden. He'd notice everything in that room. Everything was of interest to Tony. And right away, the judge looked at him. I said,"From the way he looked at him and from the way he was performing," I says, "Boy, he ought to win." And he did. When the judge wasn't looking, the handler went like this at me. ...He was quick on that. She never knew he'd made the motion. Oh, he was great! He was the best man. He charged me more money than the rest of 'em. What was that I tell 'ya? Twenty-five wasn't it? About five dollars more than anybody else. Except that, the trouble of it was, "if I don't charge the same, they're going to talk about me," handler says. He was good all right. Oh, he & Tony worked perfectly. He understood Tony and Tony understood him. And the judge was looking at the dog and looking at him and he says, "He's got it all right, she's got her eye on him." You can tell, you know. Once she turned her face and she couldn't see him, he went like this to me. It's a good advertisement, having a Staff like that, a winner at the Garden, you know." - Clifford Ormsby
Sunday, May 26, 2013
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